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unstuffed
01-06-2007, 12:52 AM
I don't know how many of you procrastinate, but it's one of my problems now and again. I recall a thread here a few days ago which had some interesting points, so I thought I might share one of mine, and see if anyone else had any similar hacks.

We all procrastinate for different reasons, that's true. The GTD system actually ameliorates quite a bit of that procrastinating urge, but there's one thing it doesn't deal with: when you've got an action that has unhappy connotations. That could be because the action itself is boring, or because there's something that makes you feel bad about the project. It might require you to deal with a particularly truculent piece of software, or to do something you don't like doing or aren't good at. Whatever.

I've found something that works for me, or at least it helps. I keep my action lists in 3 drawers of a 5-drawer plastic stationery tray. And I have those 3 action trays categorised as Nice, Numb, and Nasty. So I know that, if I reach into the Numb tray, I'll find work that's just work. If I reach into the Nice tray, I'll find something that has a positive meaning attached. And I know that I won't find anything unpleasant unless I reach into the Nasty tray.

Now it's quite true that I did this because I'm a complete coward who's liable to hide sobbing in the wardrobe rather than risk an unpleasant surprise. But I did get a couple of surprises from this system. The first, and most surprising, is that I'm actually getting much more of the Nasty stuff done. Weird but true: I find that I sit down, gird my loins, and reach in to grab something nasty and throttle it into submission. Usually early in the day.

The second and less surprising thing is that, when I take something out of the Nice tray, I may have forgotten why I put it there. So I have to think about it. So I remember what made me feel good about it. Which wouldn't have happened if I hadn't put it in the Nice tray to begin with. And that's a lovely big glob of positive reinforcement right there.

I see this as an extension of the 'corral your thinking' aspect of GTD. We need to nail down our next actions specifically. We need to collect all like actions into a context list so we can do them when in context. And this adds one extra wrinkle, which is a specific accounting of my psychological resilience. I know that I'm more likely to procrastinate if my NAs are all lumped together, because I've done it. The minute I think "I'll make some calls", my sad little mind says "Oh, but there's that icky one..." and I whimper and pull the blankie over my head. But when I know that I won't have to face the nasty things unless I actively choose to, I'm far more likely to get things done.

Actually, the one category that doesn't move as fast as the others is the Numb stuff. Not sure why, but when I'm feeling brave I dive straight into the Nasties, and when I'm not I seek solace in the Nice. I never want to go for just Numb.

Oh well, maybe that's something for NNN v1.1 :)

dsmccormick
01-06-2007, 04:21 AM
Merlin Mann in 43Folders has a great post on similar issues, which he called "cringe busting" your to do list (http://www.43folders.com/2005/05/23/cringe-busting-your-todo-list/). The idea is that you explicitly identify the items that repel you (make you cringe), then commit to knocking some of them off. It's similar to Brian Tracy's book called "Eat That Frog" (http://tinyurl.com/yezjn9). The metaphor is for doing those things that may be unpalatable but have high impact on our lives.

Good summary of the book at:
http://amit.chakradeo.net/2005/09/05/eat-that-frog/

Cheers, David.

unstuffed
01-06-2007, 02:28 PM
Thanks for that, David. I've read "Eat That Frog", and just didn't find it that useful. Perhaps I need to look at it again, but I felt that most of the strategies weren't things that would work for me.

As for the Merlin Mann reference: well, now I feel very special. Merlin's a bit of a legend in that area. Although I do think my system works better for me than his, given that the presence of cringe-worthy items on my list might prevent me from looking at it at all.

If anyone else has any anti-procrastination tips, I'd be interested to hear about them. No knowledge is ever wasted. :)

maxleibman
01-07-2007, 09:27 AM
I think it's a great idea. I could see it being a pitfall for some (me, for instance--I think things that were "nasty" because I hadn't committed to thinking them all the way through would creep into the nasty drawer, and then back into my subconscious). But I do like your style; this adds a dimension most people don't bother to track.

One things caught my attention:


Actually, the one category that doesn't move as fast as the others is the Numb stuff. Not sure why, but when I'm feeling brave I dive straight into the Nasties, and when I'm not I seek solace in the Nice. I never want to go for just Numb.

Oh well, maybe that's something for NNN v1.1 :)

DA often says that every piece of "stuff" in our lives is either attracting us or repulsing us psychologically--and he makes the either bit very clear, saying there is no "neutral." So, maybe NNN v1.1 might be "NN," just Nasty v. Nice.

GTDer88
01-07-2007, 09:36 PM
Whenever I’m feeling too lazy to work, I would give myself permission to choose whether I’d want to work or play first. Then I’d use an alarm to time myself for say 20 minutes. Whichever I chose, I would have to stop once the 20 minutes are up, and then get to the other activity. Usually I get amazed by how much I could get done in those 20 minutes.

Jeff Kelley
01-07-2007, 11:11 PM
My procrastination comes when there is one nasty task that I know I need to get done in the next few days and is very unappealing. I say "I HAVE TO WORK ON THIS TODAY" and then I stare at my screen and don't have the courage to start. So then I get in this funk where I don't want to do anything and I surf the web, or read through personal emails...just the run of the mill procrastination stuff.

What I have found since starting with GTD about a month ago, is that if I start working on little quick-and-easy tasks and knock off 4 or 5 of them I get out of my funk and into a "productive" mode. Once I get into this productive mode it is much easier to attack the big nasty task that I was avoiding.

-Jeff

unstuffed
01-08-2007, 01:46 AM
I think it's a great idea. I could see it being a pitfall for some (me, for instance--I think things that were "nasty" because I hadn't committed to thinking them all the way through would creep into the nasty drawer, and then back into my subconscious).
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DA often says that every piece of "stuff" in our lives is either attracting us or repulsing us psychologically--and he makes the either bit very clear, saying there is no "neutral." So, maybe NNN v1.1 might be "NN," just Nasty v. Nice.

Thank you. As for The Creep Of The Nasties, that doesn't seem to happen. Could be because once I get something out of the inbox to Process, I'm pretty good about giving it a well-defined NA.

Err, if that's what you're saying.

On Nasty vs Nice: good point. I guess I've just got a tendency to go for ternary divisions, rather than binary.

Actually, I started writing a para to justify this, but then I looked at what's in my Numb tray, and you're quite right. Everything in there can be described as either Nasty or Nice. Thank 'ee. :)

Now two of you are saying very similar things:


Then I’d use an alarm to time myself for say 20 minutes.
and

What I have found since starting with GTD about a month ago, is that if I start working on little quick-and-easy tasks and knock off 4 or 5 of them I get out of my funk and into a "productive" mode.

The combination of working in short bursts and getting some runs on the board seems to do the trick, at least sometimes. And I've discovered a clever hack on Merlin Mann's site (http:////www.43folders.com/2005/10/11/procrastination-hack-1025/) which has elements of both.


My procrastination comes when there is one nasty task that I know I need to get done in the next few days and is very unappealing.

You might be interested in the hack I linked to above. I like that I can do a couple of rounds of it, and I don't need to complete what I'm working on when the timer goes off, because I know I'll get to it in the next round while I'm still fresh. And it's all about lessening the pain associated with working, so that next time it's a little easier, and so on.

flexiblefine
01-08-2007, 10:52 AM
Weird but true: I find that I sit down, gird my loins, and reach in to grab something nasty and throttle it into submission. Usually early in the day.
I have much better luck getting work done in general when I start the day with work, as opposed to anything else that might be time-filling but less productive.

Even processing my inboxes first thing in the morning seems to set up a less productive state of mind. Tackling work at the beginning of the day builds momentum that keeps me going and gets more stuff done than if I finally get going later in the day.

Do you think that there is something useful about the "early in the day" part of that habit that is useful aside from the NNN box technique?

unstuffed
01-08-2007, 02:53 PM
I have much better luck getting work done in general when I start the day with work, as opposed to anything else that might be time-filling but less productive.

Even processing my inboxes first thing in the morning seems to set up a less productive state of mind. Tackling work at the beginning of the day builds momentum that keeps me going and gets more stuff done than if I finally get going later in the day.

Do you think that there is something useful about the "early in the day" part of that habit that is useful aside from the NNN box technique?

Definitely. Although I do find I get better results if I start the day with a dash, or the (10 + 2) * 5 thing, both on Merlin Mann's 43folders.com: check his archives by category for procrastination. There's something that settles my mind about whizzing through and getting some quick runs on the board, rather than facing an epic first thing.

Also, I find I do better when I interlace brain work with physical work. I can only do this because I work mainly from home, of course, but it's effective in keeping me alert, and preventing the achey-breaky syndrome from sitting too long at the computer.

GTDer88
01-08-2007, 08:25 PM
Actually, my system evolved into something like that of Merlin’s (10+2)*5. The only difference is I don’t follow a strict timeframe. If I’m feeling confident, I’d set myself up for a full one hour work. But if I’m feeling real lazy, I would only time myself for as little as 5 minutes of work. But whatever it is, I would HAVE TO alternate between work and a reward (30 minutes max). The work period is relative to my energy level, while leisure is allowed for a maximum of 30 minutes only.

Another twist that I added recently: I would HAVE TO do at least one persistently lagging NA everyday for at least 5 minutes. So far its been doing wonders to my lists. I precede my NAs with a date, so I know which ones are being neglected.

GTDer88
01-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Also, I find I do better when I interlace brain work with physical work. I can only do this because I work mainly from home, of course, but it's effective in keeping me alert, and preventing the achey-breaky syndrome from sitting too long at the computer.

I do that too. That is why I separate @pc from @home list even if I work at home. It feels great to have some sort of pace change. It's even better for my deteriorating vision.:)

unstuffed
01-08-2007, 11:43 PM
Actually, my system evolved into something like that of Merlin’s (10+2)*5.
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Another twist that I added recently: I would HAVE TO do at least one persistently lagging NA everyday for at least 5 minutes. So far its been doing wonders to my lists. I precede my NAs with a date, so I know which ones are being neglected.

Yes, I think all procrastination ideas come down to dipping your toe in the water, and getting something done while evading the bad feelings. That's the essence of the suggestions that Neil Fiore made in "The Now Habit".

That lagging NA idea is a good one, I might give that a go. I already date everything, so that I can keep track of what's lagging. Makes me wonder why I haven't thought of your trick already...:rolleyes:

unstuffed
01-08-2007, 11:45 PM
I do that too. That is why I separate @pc from @home list even if I work at home. It feels great to have some sort of pace change. It's even better for my deteriorating vision.:)

Oh, yes, that's another thing. After a long day at the computer, I feel as though my eyeballs have been sucked out of my skull. It's useful to have some outdoor things-to-do, so I can look at distant, non-glowing, things for a while.

Howard
01-09-2007, 02:31 AM
How about the BANJO method:

When you start work you: BANg off a Nasty JOb - and feel motivated afterwards.

(I just realised I was procrastinating on something else by typing this post).

Howard

gtderik
01-09-2007, 08:14 AM
Unstuffed,
I suggest you read Davids book again... You ARE on to something with understanding your energy required for tasks, but simply putting them in to a tray is not the most efficient way to do this. You are numbing yourself out to what is in each of these. I dont think that you are in any way following GTD, but simply making stacks.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your method.

-Erik

pixlz
01-09-2007, 09:09 AM
Unstuffed,
I suggest you read Davids book again... You ARE on to something with understanding your energy required for tasks, but simply putting them in to a tray is not the most efficient way to do this. You are numbing yourself out to what is in each of these. I dont think that you are in any way following GTD, but simply making stacks.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your method.

-Erik

Erik

I think what Unstuffed is doing is keeping the NAs in a drawer as you keep yours on a list. David actually talkes about using the original item as its own action reminder if appropriate (see below). I do this with certain types of NAs which I only do at my desk. It saves rewriting lists. I just get the five of six plastic folders out of the file, fan them out and decide which I am going to do at that time.



Using the Original Item as Its Own Action Reminder
The specific nature of your work, your input, and your workstation may make it more efficient to organize other categories using only the original paper itself. A customer-service rofessional,
for instance, may deal with numerous requests that show up in a standard written form, and in that case maintaining a basket or file containing only those actionable items is the best way to
manage them.

Pixlz

gtderik
01-09-2007, 10:40 AM
Yes, you are on to something. I stand corrected as using the original file as a reminder... I have actually done this myself from time to time with call messages I take in Customer Service-bouncing sheets of paper from a calls folder to a Waiting for folder... I suppose if you are deskbound, then when working in the DOING PHASE, Context and Time are already set for you... and at that point energy is the next criteria to decide which item to do next... in that case it very much is GTD. I guess the piece I must have missed was the previous four phases... thanks for the correction.

-Erik

unstuffed
01-09-2007, 02:20 PM
Yes, you are on to something. I stand corrected as using the original file as a reminder... I have actually done this myself from time to time with call messages I take in Customer Service-bouncing sheets of paper from a calls folder to a Waiting for folder... I suppose if you are deskbound, then when working in the DOING PHASE, Context and Time are already set for you... and at that point energy is the next criteria to decide which item to do next... in that case it very much is GTD. I guess the piece I must have missed was the previous four phases... thanks for the correction.

-Erik

Sorry, Erik, I didn't make myself clear. I'm not using the original file as a reminder: what goes into my trays is one sheet for each project, with the NA (dated, always dated!) on it. That was I can see how many NAs I've got (either by peeking at the tray horizontally, or by spreading them across my desk), I don't have to rewrite lists all the time, and when I do the review I look first at these to see how far I'm getting with each project.

I do occasionally use the originating document as a reminder, if it's just one piece, but I'm quite scrupulous about filing project materials elsewhere. Otherwise you'd be quite right, I'd go numb to the stack, and very quickly too.

gtderik
01-11-2007, 05:55 AM
Sounds like a very interesting to tweak to GTD! Good Luck!

Rich
01-11-2007, 02:21 PM
I returned to this board for energy as I have strayed from GTD thoughts and practices. This is my first re-exposure to GTD material in a long time. It is a great topic for me to learn from and I want to commend unstuffed not only for the creative method, but mostly for the wonderful, bouncy language.

The terms used cracked me up-I'm from Chicago and do not typically describe my hesitation to call someone as "...cringing in the wardrobe", Thanks for brightening an otherwise bland day with your fun language. You must be a writer! Oh, and I am going to try your method immediatly in honor of your fun post. Thanks!

unstuffed
01-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Thanks, Rich, glad you enjoyed it. :) I had an afflatus recently (yes, yes, but it's such a great word, isn't it? Means something like 'moment of inspiration') about the terminology I was using.

I'd already decided that I wanted my office to be exciting, not just functional. I look around the room and I can see lots of purple folders and boxes, and I'm sitting at the most funky glass desk you can imagine. I did this because I work from home, and I've had some serious problems with procrastination. So I thought that I'd make it as enjoyable as possible to be here, in hopes that this might reduce the tendency to do something else (it does).

But just recently, I realised that, despite all my purple folders, and despite my glass desk, I was still describing the basics of my system in very mundane, utilitarian, boring terms. Now I'm not a fan of pop psychology or any of that nonsense, and I don't credit all those "think yourself rich!!!" gurus who favour positive affirmations. Yes, I can be an old crankypants sometimes, but 20-odd years spent in the rigorous world of mathematical academia can make one dubious about the benefits of standing in front of a mirror mouthing platitudes.

But I digress. I'd forgotten to apply this principle to the terms I used for my system, so I was still thinking of my system in very drab terms. Did you know that manila is a colour that registers almost no emitted energy? I don't want a manila system because I don't want a manila life.

So along with the Nice/Nasty distinction (which always turns up in my mind sounding like Blackadder when drunk), I've replaced my Inbox, Waiting, Pending, and Someday/Maybe boxes with Mystery, Foot-tapping, Ignoring, and Dreaming. Words have some power, and as with the Blackadder link, these words have connotations that bring a little life into the job.

Yes, it's fairly trivial, but it works, and it makes me smile. And I'm not going to be all purse-lipped and disapproving and determined to be serious about work. It's no fun, and gets me nowhere.

And yes, Rich, one of the strings to my rather bedraggled bow is that of writer. Well spotted. :-)

Cheers,
Alison

Rich
01-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Thanks-I highly suggest Anthony Robbins' Time of your Life cd set. It will reinforce everything that you stated regarding how our labels influence our actions & behaviors. He REALLY goes deep on that concept. I never thought of it though in terms of how we label the tools that we work with daily. Sounds kind of fun-Thanks

kangmi
01-12-2007, 04:50 AM
...I've replaced my Inbox, Waiting, Pending, and Someday/Maybe boxes with Mystery, Foot-tapping, Ignoring, and Dreaming. Words have some power, and as with the Blackadder link, these words have connotations that bring a little life into the job.

Love those changes. Personally, I've never liked Someday/Maybe, so I use Mayhap instead.