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ArcCaster
11-05-2008, 11:19 AM
After I have taken a next action, and have taken as many immediate follow-on steps as is appropriate, I should identify the next action for that project before moving on to the next action of another project.

Thing is, if I add another next action each time I complete one, I will never get to the bottom of my list. The general behavior of the next action list will be to continually grow, rather than shrink.

Anyone have a convention for separating 'next week's' next actions from this weeks, or for somehow providing some guidance so that you execute a next action for every project every week, rather than continually identifying and executing next actions for your favorite project, to the exclusion of many others?

Thanks,
Rob

Cpu_Modern
11-05-2008, 01:43 PM
Thing is, if I add another next action each time I complete one, I will never get to the bottom of my list. The general behavior of the next action list will be to continually grow, rather than shrink.

The idea of GTD is not to complete lists but to get things done. Your Project and NA lists should represent a complete inventory of all your commitments and every immediately doable next action step to resolve those commitments.

The lists are not intended to measure your weekly work-load and act as a progress-meter to it. If you want to have such a thing while doing plain vanilla GTD I suggest putting *project deadlines on to your calendar and treating those deadlines as one list, basically the sports section of your system.

That said, let me add a short story from my life: The last time I improved my system with enhacements not mentioned in the book... .. nobody stormed into my office and shot me down.

* alternatively milestone deadlines see the book p.58

abhay
11-05-2008, 10:49 PM
The action lists (and every other list) will keep on constantly changing their sizes in both directions. I will be surprised if I find anybody on this forum who has all action lists empty.

The general guideline for working off action lists is to keep all urgencies, priorities and balance of areas of responsibility in mind while choosing an action from the lists. That does not mean one goes completing actions from top to bottom.

Executing next action for every project every week is a bit far fetched, and a bit more mechanical than necessary. (no system can make decisions for you! it can only give you options.) But if you keep your areas of responsibility in front of you, you will automatically know which ones are lagging behind. Choose actions accordingly. And the areas of responsibility is usually a small list of about 5 to 15 items/subitems. A mini review (no doing!) of all actions in the lists once a day will also help if you have large lists.

Hope this helps,
Abhay

kewms
11-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Thing is, if I add another next action each time I complete one, I will never get to the bottom of my list. The general behavior of the next action list will be to continually grow, rather than shrink.

Anyone have a convention for separating 'next week's' next actions from this weeks, or for somehow providing some guidance so that you execute a next action for every project every week, rather than continually identifying and executing next actions for your favorite project, to the exclusion of many others?

Actions that you don't plan to do until next week are not Next Actions anyway. Next Actions are things that you plan to do as soon as possible. Future actions go in your tickler, Someday/Maybe list, or calendar, as appropriate.

The Weekly Review is when you decide what your priorities are for the week. It's also when you make sure that everything is moving forward at the appropriate rate. Sometimes it's appropriate to work on one project to the exclusion of all others. Sometimes it's not.

As CPU_Modern pointed out, the goal is not to finish everything on your lists. (If your lists are empty, you are probably dead.) The goal is to capture all of your commitments, make progress on as many of them as feasible, and renegotiate the rest.

Katherine

jknecht
11-06-2008, 04:32 AM
Actions that you don't plan to do until next week are not Next Actions anyway.
I disagree. If it is the very next thing you could possibly do, it is a next action; regardless of WHEN you plan to do it.

If there is a next action I want to defer for some reason, I would just move it to the bottom of my context list. Or maybe rephrase the next action like: "Fasten the widget to the whatsit - preferably, after November 15"

wcartmill
11-06-2008, 09:17 AM
I disagree. If it is the very next thing you could possibly do, it is a next action; regardless of WHEN you plan to do it.

If there is a next action I want to defer for some reason, I would just move it to the bottom of my context list. Or maybe rephrase the next action like: "Fasten the widget to the whatsit - preferably, after November 15"

I tend to agree with KEWMS....technically it is a Next Action, but because you don't plan to act on it till sometime in the future (like next week), it's just cluttering the context lists (which I think act as "do it now" list of N/As). If you have to rethink each N/A on context lists (is that for now or next week?), you've gone back to processing. It seems like a N/A for next week should be on calendar, or project support.

Wm

ArcCaster
11-06-2008, 09:41 AM
Executing next action for every project every week is a bit far fetched, and a bit more mechanical than necessary. (no system can make decisions for you! it can only give you options.) But if you keep your areas of responsibility in front of you, you will automatically know which ones are lagging behind.
Hope this helps,
Abhay

Abhay, you have captured exactly what I would like to do. When I do my weekly review, I identify maybe 30 projects that are 'active'. I ensure I have identified at least one next action for each of them. It follows that, in the time between reviews, I want to take one step forward, no matter how small, for each of those projects.

Some projects are front and center -- high noise, high time commitments, immediate consequences. Others are more 'background' -- things that won't 'squeak' if I don't take a step forward. It is easy to overlook the things that are 'background'. It is easy to spend the bulk of time on the high noise immediate consequence projects.

So, as I am a day or so into my week, it would be nice if there were a way for those quiet 'background' projects to speak up, saying don't forget me -- I won't take much time, and you will be glad you took some steps.

I would like a way to 'bubble' those background projects up to the top as I make progress on the foreground projects and ignore the background.

My first thought was to find a way to move the foreground projects to the end of the line after I have spent some time on them -- my 'next action next week' idea.

The opposite approach would be to pull the background projects up to the top -- if nothing has been done on a project for the first half of the week, make it more visible.

And yes, I think you have nailed it -- I am looking for a mechanical aid that will let me avoid careful consideration of my next action list every time I complete a next action.

I suppose, if I must, I can spend a little more time thinking and considering :roll: But wouldn't it be nice if somehow we could make those background projects 'speak up' if they are being ignored?

Thanks,
Rob

abhay
11-06-2008, 08:17 PM
I suppose, if I must, I can spend a little more time thinking and considering :roll: But wouldn't it be nice if somehow we could make those background projects 'speak up' if they are being ignored?


Believe me, any mechanical approach to avoid choosing and decision making will ultimately fail, in the sense that you won't eventually approve what it tells you! (You know what, I have learnt it the hard way!)

My way of the daily review of the actions is to bring to top of the list those actions that I feel I should do real soon. This sometimes includes actions from what you call background projects, but not always. This `real soon' is purposely vague, since otherwise it takes the form of daily to-do lists, which are bound to fail in my case for many reasons: unforeseen inputs/interruptions, wrong estimated times required for some actions, and so on. Further, I still may choose actions actions not from the top of the list while actually doing, since the factors such as time available and energy come in.

Regards,
Abhay

unstuffed
11-07-2008, 01:42 AM
My first thought was to find a way to move the foreground projects to the end of the line after I have spent some time on them -- my 'next action next week' idea.

The opposite approach would be to pull the background projects up to the top -- if nothing has been done on a project for the first half of the week, make it more visible.

Hi Rob. Depends on where you keep your lists. If you have paper lists, then a simple solution is to do a micro-mini review every day in which you tick the projects that you've touched. It becomes pretty clear pretty quickly which ones you haven't touched, and since you said you've got about 30 active projects, your project list shouldn't be too long to scan quickly.

This depends on you having a Current Projects list, of course, as well as the NA lists.

If you're using electronic lists, there may be some similar tweak you can use - I'm imagining something that colours the project (or NAs) based on how long it's been since you last touched that project. So recently-touched projects might be deep, calm blue, projects you've touched a couple of days ago might be purple, and shading up to red for things that haven't seen you for most of the week.

The algorithm to do this would be fairly simple, although coding it into whatever application you're using would be the trick. If you're using software from a small and responsive source, you might contact them and ask them nicely if they'd like to add it into their next release. :)

Brent
11-07-2008, 05:52 AM
I appreciate the need to flag those Projects that aren't getting done.

I highlight each Project in my Project list when I've done some work on it. I have a paper Projects list, so I literally use a yellow highlighter. If I had a digital system, I'd highlight digitally, and clear the highlights during my Weekly Review.

I also highlight in red every Project that I complete.

moises
11-07-2008, 12:50 PM
I disagree. If it is the very next thing you could possibly do, it is a next action; regardless of WHEN you plan to do it.

If there is a next action I want to defer for some reason, I would just move it to the bottom of my context list. Or maybe rephrase the next action like: "Fasten the widget to the whatsit - preferably, after November 15"
jknecht,

You are right. David Allen created the Next Action concept. His is the canonical definition and your explanation accords with it.

Katherine's unorthodox approach is, nonetheless, worthy of consideration. A user of this forum stated a few years ago that David Allen Co. coaches were telling that user to construct her NA list precisely as Katherine described.

The advantages of this approach are:

1. For those of us who have a very large number of items in our trusted system, it can be mind-numbingly tedious and time-consuming to look at lengthy lists to figure out what is the best thing to do now. Katherine's approach allows us to scan quickly a reasonably concise list.

2. It jives with the weekly rhythm of GTD.

3. It is consistent with the higher altitudes, which are time-defined.

Of course the "strict constructionist" GTDer, who follows the text to the letter and condemns the slightest deviationist tendency, will note that Katherine's revisionist interpretation is like a gateway drug, it can lead to even more grotesque distortions of pure GTD.

I am a prime example. First, I distinguished my this-week-next-actions from all the others. (This is the "gateway" stage.) Ecstatic, I took the next logical step: I created daily lists that I work from. (This is the "steroids" stage.) I create my list at the beginning of each day. As new things come up, I put them on a separate list. Each day becomes a game that I play. I win the game if I cross off every item that I put on my list at the beginning of the day. To make the game more interesting, I keep a record of how many days in a row I've won the game. Currently, my streak stands at 19 days.

When I first started GTD, I practiced it as written. I immediately recognized how wonderful it was to be so organized and I experienced a profound sense of satisfaction as I felt much more in control. But I was still wasting a lot of time. I looked at my lists each week, but I often made no progress on many of the items on those lists for months and even years.

A good thing about GTD is that you can decide to take the day off because you know exactly what work is outstanding and when it's due. But the downside is that GTD made it too easy for me to take it too easy on too many days. And when I went home at the end of the day I didn't feel very good when I noted how little I had accomplished.

Now, I get a feeling of great satisfaction knowing that each day for the last 19 I accomplished at least everything that I set out to do at the beginning of that day.

Oddly enough, I still view myself as doing GTD. I have a trusted system. I track my Projects and NAs in it. I do my reviews Weekly. I have contexts, ticklers, an in-box that I process, and I ask myself "What is the desired outcome?" and "What is the Next Action?" I avoid keeping stuff in my head. But it's not GTD out of the box; it's GTD on steroids.

If the traditional definition of NA is working for you, by all means stick with it. But if you are like many of us who felt overwhelmed by the shear volume of NAs we were carrying in our lists, you might consider some tweaks.

[Editorial note: I am not, have not, and have no intention of ever using steroids for anything other than approved medical reasons. This post was in no way intended to promote the recreational use of steroids or any other drug.]

moises

kewms
11-07-2008, 03:28 PM
You are right. David Allen created the Next Action concept. His is the canonical definition and your explanation accords with it.

Katherine's unorthodox approach is, nonetheless, worthy of consideration. A user of this forum stated a few years ago that David Allen Co. coaches were telling that user to construct her NA list precisely as Katherine described.


Ummm... I'm not actually convinced that my approach is unorthodox. "Defer it" is an option in the original GTD workflow diagram, after all. See Chapter 6 for discussion and examples.

If I'm going to defer action on a project for six months, then IMO keeping it on my Next Action list simply gums up the works. If I'm going to do it tomorrow, then obviously my NA list is where it belongs. But for time intervals in between, it seems to me that there's room for a great deal of individual discretion. I don't see how using that discretion deviates from "canonical" GTD. (Not that I actually care whether a system is canonical GTD, as long as it works.)

Katherine

jesig
11-07-2008, 07:07 PM
I think one missing link in the "do it next week" equation is whether or not this is "I don't think I'll have time to do this until next week" or "I have decided that the optimal time to do this is not this week but next." For me, and I'd imagine many others, that's the distinction between NA list (former) or tickler file/someday-maybe, etc. (latter) If I've deferred something simply because I don't think I'll get to it this week, then it's not on my NA list when the perfect opportunity rolls around for me to get it done NOW instead of later.

But I also think that the original poster was worried about the never-ending list, and well--welcome to GTD. As Katherine pointed out, if your lists are empty, you're probably dead.

moises
11-08-2008, 11:27 AM
Actions that you don't plan to do until next week are not Next Actions anyway. Next Actions are things that you plan to do as soon as possible. Future actions go in your tickler, Someday/Maybe list, or calendar, as appropriate.

The workflow diagram shows that the Someday/Maybe list is for items that are not actionable. If there is an action, the choices are Do It, Delegate It, or Defer It. The deferred items go either on the Calendar if date-specific, or on a Next Action list "to do as soon as I can" if there is no specific date.

The Next Action list is not time-specified in orthodox GTD "to do in the current weekly planning cycle."

Chapter 7 goes into the Someday/Maybe list in detail. It describes the items on this list as "on hold" (167).

I think that defining NAs as things to be done in the next planning cycle is great. But I can't find anything in the book that supports such a definition.

kewms
11-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Chapter 7 goes into the Someday/Maybe list in detail. It describes the items on this list as "on hold" (167).

An item that you've decided not to address for a given period of time would be on hold for that period, would it not?

Katherine

DoingIt
11-09-2008, 09:05 AM
Katherine, although I always read your postings with great interest and I usually agree with your views, this is an instance where, in my opinion, moises has a valid point.

I tend to look at Someday/Maybe as a list of possible future actions which are not definite or decided. Going back to the initial posting in this thread, the classification of the NA was about a definite next action whose implementation time, however, is not immediate.

Without meaning to move this thread sideways: As for the practice followed by moises, that is to create a daily or day's next action list, I admit to occasionally using this myself. I find it quite effective and a good booster to move things forward, especially in times when I feel that I'm overloaded with a lot of NAs in my context lists.

kewms
11-09-2008, 04:11 PM
I think the key question is what period of "on holdness" justifies taking an item off your Next Action list and putting it somewhere else. The answer probably depends on the length of your lists, the length of your planning horizon, the nature of the task, etc. I don't think an absolute answer is likely, even within one person's system.

Katherine

Brent
11-10-2008, 06:48 AM
Here's my view:

If I can't work on an Action right now, I don't want it on my Next Actions list. I've got plenty on that list already; why clutter it up with things I can't do? That will create stress and an extra psychological burden as I check my lists throughout the day, parsing out things I can do from those I can't.

So, those items that I can't work on, need to go somewhere that I'll check every week. I check Someday/Maybe every week. So I put them there.

But that's my view; do whatever works for you. There are no GTD Police.

furashgf
11-10-2008, 07:37 AM
1. I think you've all missed the best part of this thread, K.'s line: "when your lists are empty, you're probably dead."

2. I tended to initially end up with tons of projects on my list. Moving things out of scope (Renegotiating them) to S/M, Tickler, or whatever, because you're realistically not going to work on them now seems like GTD. Just having them sit on your lists always generated anxiety for me. I always do better when I try to set a Kanban-style limit on my lists - that is, N number of projects.

3. I'm thinking with K.'s approach, you're project list should essentially be what you're planning on working in the very near term (forget about whether it's this week or not, that's up to you). If it's not that, it's on some other list.

jknecht
11-10-2008, 01:48 PM
OK. I feel like I sort started this whole kerfuffle, so I should probably clarify my position a little.

First and foremost, you should all be aware that I have broken just as many GTD laws as anyone: I've tried explicitly tying my next actions to my projects. I've tried stringing a bunch of actions together to form a project plan within a next action (eg., Write status report, then send to John, then update wiki with highlights from status report). I've tried applying ABC priority codes to my next actions. I've used 'Today' lists. I've put things on my calendar which I only planned to do, but didn't HAVE to do on that day. I've cleared the decks and moved EVERYTHING to Someday/Maybe and renegotiated every item as if it were brand new; and I've completely eliminated Someday/Maybe, treating everything as if it were a firm commitment. You name it, I've probably tried it.

Some things have worked better than others. I've kept the things that worked, and I've changed the things that didn't. I'm firmly in the camp of 'do what works for you'.

That said, I've seen a lot of posts recently which espouse the virtues of keeping your lists limited to only what you can accomplish this week. At one time, I agreed with this advice. In my early GTD days, it certainly saved me a lot of stress from looking at excessively long lists; and it saved me from the apathy that can form when you look at the same action every day for weeks on end and say 'meh, I'll deal with that later'.

However, I came to realize that there were a large number of projects that I was committed to doing, but which I was making no progress on. Why? Because they were on my Someday/Maybe list, and I had not identified a Next Action for them.

Simple things that could have pushed those projects forward, like 'buy white vinegar to clean the coffee maker', were not getting done simply because I had decided that I was going to be too busy this week to worry about the coffee maker, and besides, it isn't THAT dirty, is it. My Someday/Maybe list was becoming a wasteland of projects that needed to get done; projects that I could have made significant progress on had I just identified and recorded a Next Action, but which languished because I had made a decision earlier in the week that I might not want to deal with it during the next seven days.

One of the problems that David Allen points out with traditional planning methods is that you have no idea, really, what's going to happen throughout the week. Planning on Monday what your day is going to look like on Thursday, for most of us, is not reasonable. So why would it be reasonable to think that we can know all of the projects that we might be motivated to work on throughout the remainder of the week, no matter how small that work might be?

So, I decided to try an experiment... What if I limited Someday/Maybe to ONLY those things that I have not made a firm commitment to do? That fireproof mat that I want to buy for under my grill... I know I probably won't find one until next spring, but I'm putting it on my @errands list right now. The storage unit that needs to be cleaned out... on my projects list even though I know I won't be doing it until after the first of the year.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING that I have made a firm commitment to do went on my lists, and you know what happened? I started getting things done. Things that I hadn't planned on doing... they were getting done. That coffee maker; clean. The storage unit; not clean yet, but better than it was. The mat for the grill; still on my list, but now I at least remember to check every time I go into a store that might carry them (and I predict that, in the not too distant future, I'll just get sick of seeing it there and will buy one over the internet).

One thing I have learned from this experiment is that I am making more progress on things that I never thought I would; and the same progress on the things that would have been on the list anyway. I'm getting more done than ever before, especially on unexpected little things.

I will confess that it takes a certain amount of discipline to review my lists thoroughly. I have a tendency to put the more important items toward the top of the list, so if my eyes glaze over, at least I haven't missed something really important.

Weekly reviews actually take less time than they used to, because I no longer have to decide whether I should move a project to someday/maybe or vice-versa based on whether I think I can fit it in with my current work load. The decision point is much easier now -- Now it is simply: Yes or No, am I committed to doing this?

I don't think I could have done this earlier in my GTD life. It has taken a while to get used to seeing those long lists; and it has been well worth it.

I think I've rambled long enough; and I think we've certainly steered this ship far enough off-course. So, let me just reiterate: I happen to disagree with the folks who subscribe to the 'plan for the week ahead' philosophy, but I do not necessarily think they are wrong -- that philosophy works for them; mine works for me. I simply suggest you try different approaches and see which one works for you.

abhay
11-10-2008, 08:00 PM
Agreed with jknecht! Same here. I am uncomfortable when a commitment sits on the someday-maybe list. But I am fine with an action lingering for months on my actions list, since not doing it because I thought I had other higher payoff actions on my lists was my own choice. And then suddenly I get this opportunity to get it done and I get it done because I have it as an option on my list.

Regards,
Abhay

Brent
11-11-2008, 06:02 AM
Okay. So, some people benefit from one way of managing their Actions, and others benefit from other ways.

Oogiem
11-11-2008, 06:36 AM
I came to realize that there were a large number of projects that I was committed to doing, but which I was making no progress on. Why? Because they were on my Someday/Maybe list, and I had not identified a Next Action for them.

This really resonates with me. My huge S/M list has hundreds of projects. Most have NAs identified already but some do not. Mine are usually either small projects or else huge multi-decade ones. There are some that I have missed chances to do work on because I did not know about the next actions I could take when conditions were right.


What if I limited Someday/Maybe to ONLY those things that I have not made a firm commitment to do?

Interesting. That sounds more reasonable to me.

Right now I am still trying a paper/palm hybrid and I am not sure I can do what you did until I go back to a full electronic version. But I really like the idea of having all potential next actions on your lists.

I think before I do this though I need to better define my contexts. I probably need to spend the next weekly review time really thinking the limiting factors for every project/NA and see what contexts fall out of that. The issues of weather, season and animal attitude are hard to control but are often what limits me from doing any specific next action. I'm thinking that in most cases my context will be based on tools needed, some on weather and some on season. The weather related ones are the hardest to categorize. I have a NA right now that needs to be done after a rain or snow storm but during dry sunny weather that is not too cold. It is a two person job and will take about 4 hours to complete. Where to put it is a challenge for me right now.

ellobogrande
11-11-2008, 12:11 PM
I have a NA right now that needs to be done after a rain or snow storm but during dry sunny weather that is not too cold. It is a two person job and will take about 4 hours to complete. Where to put it is a challenge for me right now.

I've seen several of your posts before, and I agree that you have some tougher challenges than many of us (projects that last for years or decades, weather-specific conditions, etc.).

For this example, I would write this next action on an individual piece of paper and rotate it through my tickler file (day-by-day if necessary). On this sheet of paper I would have a description of the action, the conditions required to do the action, and a list of multiple people upon whom you could call to help you do the action. As it appears in the in-basket, it should trigger a reminder for you to check the weather forecast and schedule a time with someone to actually do the action when the conditions are right. At that point you might write "Call Fred re: ???" on your @Calls list or just pick up the phone and start calling.

In this case it seems like the action is not really a next action in and of itself but a sub-project.

I hope that helps. Best of luck.

ArcCaster
11-11-2008, 12:41 PM
Great thoughts!

A question for you -- how often do you review your entire next action list?

At weekly review time?

At the end of the day? Beginning of the day?

Every time you complete a next action?

Every time you change contexts?

Suppose you spend an entire day in the same context -- how often do you review the entire next action list for that context?

Still refining my system.
Rob

jknecht
11-11-2008, 01:43 PM
Great thoughts!

A question for you -- how often do you review your entire next action list?

At weekly review time?

At the end of the day? Beginning of the day?

Every time you complete a next action?

Every time you change contexts?

Suppose you spend an entire day in the same context -- how often do you review the entire next action list for that context?

Still refining my system.
Rob

Obviously, the weekly review is when I review everything and ensure that I have at least one Next Action defined for every project. I try to stay on top of the context lists throughout the week so my weekly reviews remain as short as possible -- when I reach a stopping point for a given project, I remove the previous Next Action and immediately identify a new one.

I start every day with a fifteen or twenty minute planning session to review my calendar and projects list, and to decide on a few goals for the day. If there are more than a couple of high-priority items for the day, then I write them in a conspicuous place so it is in my face all day.

When I change contexts, I review all the items on that list. I rarely have more than 30 or 40 items in any given context, so this usually takes no more than a minute or two (unless I catch myself skimming the list, then I have to refocus and start over).

I routinely re-order my lists so that the most critical items are at the top (or at least, what seems critical at the moment). I don't always work top-down, but it does minimize the risk that I will gloss over something truly important.

I review my context lists frequently throughout the day, whether I have changed contexts or not -- not necessarily every time I reach a stopping point on a project, but certainly several times per day.

Oogiem
11-11-2008, 04:08 PM
I would write this next action on an individual piece of paper and rotate it through my tickler file (day-by-day if necessary). On this sheet of paper I would have a description of the action, the conditions required to do the action, and a list of multiple people upon whom you could call to help you do the action.

Great idea, thanks! That might work for several of those weather dependent NAs.


In this case it seems like the action is not really a next action in and of itself but a sub-project.

That is probably technically correct but I have a hard time considering it a project when it's so tied together. Once you start the job you have to keep going until you finish. The trigger for doing the action though is weather and then beyond that is hubby avail. to help that day, our combined energy levels and in this particular case, whether the blister on my hand has healed yet ;-) The project is trimming hooves. I have 109 animals left to do, (times 4 feet each, times 2 toes per foot) I can do about 25-30 animals before I get blisters and have to stop for a week until they heal. My NA is trim toes on the next batch of 28 animals. It's the smallest segment I can do as a single action.

abhay
11-11-2008, 07:37 PM
My ways mostly match with what jknecht describes. Here is what I do:



how often do you review your entire next action list?

My office context list is special, since that's the one which is most dynamic and large. I review it fully in the beginning of the day, and pull up what I think is critical to the top. That does not mean I do it on the same day. And then throughout the day, I keep on going through it for choice of what to do next.

Other lists like errands and home actions receive attention once a day when I process my input. If I find something not done on these lists for long, I find other ways like putting it on calendar. And of course they are (mostly) reviewed when I am in respective contexts.



Every time you complete a next action?

Yes, that's true, but that's not a full review. I just need to choose the next action to complete.



Every time you change contexts?

Almost :)

Well, this way, I don't have to review my action lists at all during my weekly review, since I know them. Just by looking at a project, for example, I can answer to myself whether there is a next action on this project and what is it.



Still refining my system.

That's perhaps never-ending! ;)

Regards,
Abhay

sdann
11-12-2008, 06:54 AM
Great thoughts!

A question for you -- how often do you review your entire next action list?

At weekly review time?

At the end of the day? Beginning of the day?

Every time you complete a next action?

Every time you change contexts?

Suppose you spend an entire day in the same context -- how often do you review the entire next action list for that context?

Still refining my system.
Rob


It's funny you brought this up. I found myself getting involved in a project or context, only to realize I forgot to stop and see if there is anything else I really should be doing. Two weeks ago I began automatically texting my phone at 10:30AM and 2:30PM "Check contexts and NAs!" So far it works most of the time. This also allows me to really focus on one thing without worrying I'm forgetting something. I also use the texting to remind me in advance of any calendar items.

Cpu_Modern
11-12-2008, 10:14 AM
"Check contexts and NAs!" So far it works most of the time. This also allows me to really focus on one thing without worrying I'm forgetting something.

This is the last habit you learn on your way to a mind like water: review.

ArcCaster
11-12-2008, 11:47 AM
This is the last habit you learn on your way to a mind like water: review.

I think you are right on the money. And the kind of review I hear people talking about is a context-specific or day-specific review that is basically done once a day. That is, once a day, either all next actions or just the next actions for a particular context get looked over -- important items are floated to the top of the lists -- and you focus on those 'floating' items for the rest of the day, to the exclusion of items a little further down the list of priorities for the day.

Regards,
Rob

ChristinaSkaskiw
11-14-2008, 11:03 AM
Hi all,

As of late, say last couple of months, I've started to create a weekly mind-map as an outcome of my weekly review. It's something I've heard David talk about on some podcast or other. It actually helps me focus on my reviewing. I do it by hand on an A5 size piece of paper (~8 x 5.5) which then sits in my "letter sorter" on my desk within sight. On it I'll have the projects I'm focusing on at the moment, calendar highlights, and any next actions that I want to act on. If I complete everything on my mind-map (well, not necessarily the projects) then I know the important stuff has been handled, even if I didn't look at my other lists. I've found it really helpful.

All the best,
Christina

moises
11-27-2008, 02:46 AM
An item that you've decided not to address for a given period of time would be on hold for that period, would it not?

Katherine

Totally unrelated to this discussion, I was reviewing the GTD literature this morning. Chapter 48 of Ready For Anything shocked me, though I've read it twice before and had no untoward reaction.

The focus of this chapter is a "long-term project . . . like 'restructure the department,' 'create a strategic task force,' and 'develop a personal-investment strategy.'"

David tells us that there is an important distinction between long-term projects and someday/maybes. And the difference has nothing to do with time horizons. The difference is that we are committing ourselves to seeing a project realized and we are not committing ourselves to someday/maybes. The way we demonstrate our commitment is by creating a Next Action for a project.

So far, so good. Nothing radical there, to those of us who have been practicing GTD for a while. Now comes the mind-blowing part. If we are committed, then we are committed to closing the open loop that is the project as soon as possible. What does that mean? "'As soon as possible' may be seven years, but it is still 'as soon as possible.'"

In plain English, a project is not on hold, according to David Allen, even if we are not going to do the Next Action seven years from now. Once we've put that Next Action in our system, there is an open loop that we are committing ourselves to close. A project with a Next Action is active. It is not a someday/maybe. Its time horizon is as soon as possible. A someday/maybe item in our system does not create an open loop. We are not committed to it. It has no time horizon. Once we've committed ourselves, it's not a someday/maybe.