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Dan Owen
06-20-2009, 06:29 AM
This statement from DA in the GTD List Manager Part II podcast really struck me. I love when DA makes these kinds of direct, unqualified, clarifying statements.

The question was, which list manager is best? The answer, spread out over two podcasts, was: paper, but really whichever one gets the job done for you. The fundamental criteria for both a list manager and for those using them, though, is whether it answers the following question:


"Do people have to look at their lists in order to really stayed focused and know what to do, and as soon as they do, the system's working .... You're really a black belt when you have to look at your Calls list to know who to call because your head's empty."

So many of the forum discussions (which I love and participate in) focus on how to organize the lists, and which item goes where. But the real habit is to look at your lists before making a move. In a work culture that prizes multi-tasking above all other skills, orienting your attention around your lists is a real challenge. There are so many active and passive obstacles to working this way.

I'm finding, as I discipline myself to work exclusively off my lists, that it's changing the direction of my implementation. I started by cultivating the collect/process/organize habit, but if I had started with the habit of working exclusively from lists, I think it would have driven home the point that collect/process/organize is not something you do for its own sake (even though it has its own benefits). It's there to serve the list-oriented work habit. Obviously, it's a system in which all the parts function together, but we all tend to pay more attention to one part than another, which I find steadily undermines my overall trust of my system. Even when my collect/process/organize is thorough, if those next actions are sitting in lists that I don't look at, the system simply doesn't work for me.

Here's a link to the podcast:

http://www.gtdtimes.com/2009/06/09/the-perfect-gtd-list-manager-part-ii/

clango
06-21-2009, 10:09 AM
Even when my collect/process/organize is thorough, if those next actions are sitting in lists that I don't look at, the system simply doesn't work for me.

http://www.gtdtimes.com/2009/06/09/the-perfect-gtd-list-manager-part-ii/

Congratulations Dan!

Could you please tell me which are the other color belt before black. In the sense I'm not so disciplined. I'd add yet, because I'm growing! :oops:

TesTeq
06-21-2009, 10:30 PM
Could you please tell me which are the other color belt before black.

Here http://www.davidco.com/forum/showpost.php?p=50986&postcount=2 you can find all the GTD belts.

abhay
06-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Could not get it (this feature is not available at this time). Perhaps a post from a connect-only forum?

Regards,
Abhay

clango
06-22-2009, 11:46 AM
Could not get it (this feature is not available at this time). Perhaps a post from a connect-only forum?

Regards,
Abhay

I unfortunately confirm. It seems not to be an only connect forum

RuthMcT
06-22-2009, 01:58 PM
Try this thread http://www.davidco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2665&highlight=black+white+belt

Ruth
(Green belt)

Oogiem
06-22-2009, 06:02 PM
Could you please tell me which are the other color belt before black. In the sense I'm not so disciplined. I'd add yet, because I'm growing! :oops:

No idea what GTD folks use but my martial arts system (Kung Fu) was White, Yellow, Orange, Green, Blue, Brown and Black in that order.

clango
06-24-2009, 09:43 AM
Try this thread http://www.davidco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2665&highlight=black+white+belt

Ruth
(Green belt)

Ruth, thank you.

I think to be a green belt too. Even if I'm taking care of some of the brown belt principles.

I'm sorry but I know to have a better behaviour;)