Meeting Notes & Project Management

[DShick]

I have a fail safe system using NirvanaHQ to manage next actions but am looking for better ways to keep project and meeting notes.

I used to walk into meetings with paper and pen and took lots of notes (former training as a journalist) which would then be filed according to the project and next actions would go into Nirvana. But sometimes I'd be away from my office and wished I would have brought a different folder when something came up that we had previously dealt with on another project.

I then moved from paper to OneNote which required my to bring my laptop everywhere. That system worked great except our work culture is not all that embracing of laptops at meetings. There were previous abuses.

So about 3 months ago I started to experiment with EverNote. I moved all my notes there and bring my iPad to meetings so I have all of my background and notes accessible to me. No one seems to mind that. But I have problems with typing on the keypad and typing on an iPad raises the same eyebrows as a laptop. Lately, I've been taking new notes on paper and later transferring them to Evernote. That's time consuming and I fall behind during busy times.

I have to make some choices but would love to hear what others are doing. Thanks.

Dee

[Roger]

I haven't actually tried this technology myself, so take this with a grain of salt, but it seems like there are "digital pens" out there which automagically scan and OCR your notes as you take them, ready for immediate upload. To pick a technology at random, it looks like "Livescribe" does this.

Maybe someone here has tried it out and can comment.



Cheers,
Roger

[mommoe436]

I use Evernote. A quick solution would be to scan the paper notes as soon as you are able and store in Evernote. I know Evernote also has the ability to record, but I have not used that feature.

[Oogiem]

Lately, I've been taking new notes on paper and later transferring them to Evernote. That's time consuming and I fall behind during busy times.

SOunds like a perfect application for scanning with OCR and then just editing the results to ensure accuracy and store those notes in Evernote.

[cwoodgold]

Just ideas: ignore them if you want.

You can ignore the raised eyebrows. (Or if you can't, I hope you can ignore this message from me.) Or raise your eyebrows back at them, even higher.

You can volunteer to take the minutes of the meeting, and then you have an excuse to have the laptop. You can email out the minutes just as the meeting is ending.

When you want to type something, you can say something like "That's a good point! Let me get that down!" and then type frantically for a minute and then stop. I would hope that would lower some eyebrows a bit. After you do this a bunch of times you may be able to get the same message across without speaking up and interrupting the meeting: just saying "Oh!" while raising one index finger, or (once they've gotten used to you doing that) just raising one index finger. Or if you want to consult your notes, you can say "Oh, I think I have something about that in my notes ..." and then quickly search in your computer, then say "There it is!". Sometimes read out information from your notes that may be relevant to the meeting. Also spend a large part of the meeting ignoring your computer and paying full attention to whoever is speaking.

There may be a way to use a computer such that everybody at the meeting can see the screen. At our meeting room, I can log into a computer that's projected onto a big screen on the wall that everybody can see. I can have my own email and stuff projected onto the big screen. You have to be careful not to display private stuff, but if you do something like that and use it to take notes, at least people can see that you're focussed on the meeting. Maybe they would even suggest corrections if you misunderstand something and type it in wrong. You might be able to get a similar effect with a laptop if, from time to time during the meeting, you say "Look at this!" and show a couple of people sitting near you what's on your screen. For example, asking the person next to you whether you'd spelled a name right in your notes, or something. Or display something in large font and turn the laptop around to show everyone. Or mutter as you type in, just loudly enough that people know roughly what you're typing, until the ones telling you to be quiet overcome the eyebrow-raisers.

[cwoodgold]

Wait! I know! I know!

Learn to type without looking at the laptop.

[ellobogrande]

I used to walk into meetings with paper and pen and took lots of notes (former training as a journalist) which would then be filed according to the project and next actions would go into Nirvana.

If you are the journaling type, read on. If not, ignore.

I recall a recommendation that I heard from David Allen himself (on video) that you do not keep one journal per project. He recommends keeping a single running journal for all of the projects in your life. That way the notes are all in one place.

If I remember correctly he keeps two journals: one for his work (everything unfinished in his life) and a separate one for his own reflective journaling.

[DShick]

Thanks to everyone for your interesting and helpful posts. I'm still interested in how others handle this

[cwoodgold]

OK. I bring a pad of paper to a meeting. I write notes. I put an arrow next to anything like an action (or stuff). After the meeting, I tear off the page(s) I used and put them in my inbox. When I process them, I copy the actions onto individual sheets of paper in my system, one page per action, unless I do them immediately. Useful information I usually type into the computer somewhere so I can find it by searching for keywords or looking in a relevant file. I might then put a diagonal pencil stroke across the original page(s) of meeting notes, and put them in my "culling" system (more-or-less per Martin Ternouth) where I'll see them again in a week or so, which can jog my memory and remind me of the meeting as a whole, and I might possibly decide to extract additional information or actions from it at that time. After I've seen it enough times in the "culling" system, I make sure it's crossed out, then use the back of the paper for other purposes (such as those one-action-per-page things).

Sometimes I type in minutes to the meeting, after the meeting, and send them out on the computer typically within a couple of hours after the meeting.

I've tried typing minutes during the meeting, but stopped because it slowed things down too much. Apparently I can write much faster than I can type, maybe because I wasn't using a normal keyboard and mouse, and on paper I can use all sorts of abbreviations. (I have a shorthand writing system which I invented, for example.) Transitioning from talking to writing and back seems to work better with pencil and paper than with the computer. Although I think if I'm just typing straight text I can probably do that faster than writing out the full words. It takes time after the meeting to type in the minutes, but only one person's time, not slowing down the whole meeting. (I was kindof chairing the meetings too.)

[natedowg]

Thanks to everyone for your interesting and helpful posts. I'm still interested in how others handle this

I use a leather folio with a yellow pad, take notes by hand in a meeting, usually 6-10 pages. Then, later type them up with on PC using Dragon Naturally Speaking and microphone. Email them out, (or in my case post to a forum). Then file the paper if needed or recycle. (one time our forum went down and everything got erased)

I was thinking also, in your case, you may try a tablet with keyboard combination. The size will be smaller than a labtop, probably pretty quite, and easier than touchscreen. Asus Transformer comes to mind. As long as others in the meeting know your not sitting there playing Angry Birds, lol