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    Default Projects about not-doing

    Hello,

    What are your thoughts on projects that are about becoming better at NOT doing something. Like, say, quitting smoking or becoming better at not drinking in social occasions?

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    Lightbulb Focus on doing something else instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by s_lyhne View Post
    What are your thoughts on projects that are about becoming better at NOT doing something. Like, say, quitting smoking or becoming better at not drinking in social occasions?
    You cannot focus on NOT doing. Focus on doing something else instead.
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    Exactly, try not thinking of a blue elephant, for example.

    Any reminder for giving up a habit will just bring your habit to mind.

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    I have a different point of view.

    If you are wanting to stop bad habits there are couple of things that you can do.

    1) You create a list of reasons why you want to quit that habit.
    What will this habit cost you if you continue to do it?
    Why do you want to quit? How will this benefit you? etc
    Then whenever you are tempted to indulge in that habit you can pull out that list and reflect on it.

    2) You can download an app like "streaks" for iphone (I don't know any apps like this for other phones) but what this app does is it keeps track of your habits. So if you are wanting to work out, each time you do complete a work out you mark it down in streaks and it will track your progress.

    Some people use this app to have smoke free days, so if they were able to stop smoking for 3 days, and then they had a smoke on the fourth day, then they will have to start their streak all over again. It can be a fun way to track because then you start challenging yourself, saying things like, "Well I was able to do 5 days last time, let's do 6 days or 7 days this time.

    It's late but I will add more stuff tomorrow

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    Arrow Just create a list of reasons and download an iPhone app...

    Quote Originally Posted by shane_k View Post
    If you are wanting to stop bad habits there are couple of things that you can do.

    1) You create a list of reasons why you want to quit that habit.
    What will this habit cost you if you continue to do it?
    Why do you want to quit? How will this benefit you? etc
    Then whenever you are tempted to indulge in that habit you can pull out that list and reflect on it.

    2) You can download an app like "streaks" for iphone (I don't know any apps like this for other phones) but what this app does is it keeps track of your habits. So if you are wanting to work out, each time you do complete a work out you mark it down in streaks and it will track your progress.

    Some people use this app to have smoke free days, so if they were able to stop smoking for 3 days, and then they had a smoke on the fourth day, then they will have to start their streak all over again. It can be a fun way to track because then you start challenging yourself, saying things like, "Well I was able to do 5 days last time, let's do 6 days or 7 days this time.
    So stopping a bad habit is a piece of cake - you just create a list of reasons and download an iPhone app...

    I strongly disagree. Both methods focus on bad habit which is a bad habit. You should focus on good habits.

    And in this "smoking" example it seems that the person trying to stop smoking periodically rewards herself/himself with a day of smoking. Very counterintuitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_lyhne View Post
    What are your thoughts on projects that are about becoming better at NOT doing something. Like, say, quitting smoking or becoming better at not drinking in social occasions?
    I word them in positive terms because often the brain does not understand the no and hears the bad thing as what you want. For example: Telling a child to stop slamming the door is heard as slam the door but saying Close the door quietly is heard and processed differently and is far more likely to result in less slamming.

    So for me I'd word your projects like

    "I am free of the smoking habit" with actions of perhaps "Identify the triggers that result in me lighting up a cigarette".

    and

    "I enjoy social interactions without excess alcohol" with an action of "Grab a large glass of water with a twist at any social event where alcohol is served as soon as I come in the door."
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    Breaking bad habits is more of a goal than a project. However, that goal might involve the creation and completion of projects. Quitting smoking is a good example of a goal related to an area of focus (your health). Projects that might spin out of that include:

    Research smoking cessation programs
    Set up smoking cessation program x

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    Default and for what it's worth...

    Quote Originally Posted by s_lyhne View Post
    Hello, What are your thoughts on projects that are about becoming better at NOT doing something. Like, say, quitting smoking or becoming better at not drinking in social occasions?
    Hello!

    You also might want to check out the book "The Power of Habit" by Charles Duhigg. If you become a GTD Connect member (and you can sign up for the free trial) there's an extensive discussion about the book and how GTD can help support better habits.

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    Some suggestions:

    -- the book "Willpower" by Baumeister and Tierney

    -- this article: http://happiness-project.com/happine...-something-up/ It says that some
    people do better if they quit something cold turkey, while other people do better
    if they cut down to a small amount of the habit. Find what works for you.

    -- Start one new habit at a time. the "Willpower" book says willpower is like
    a muscle: it gets tired, but gets strong in the longer term with exercise.
    Trying to start too many new habits at once is more likely to lead to the
    willpower getting tired and giving in (but don't use that as an excuse!)

    -- Make a list of reasons not to do the thing, and put it where you'll run into
    it when you go to do the habit. For example, taped around the outside of
    a package of cigarrettes; or get in the habit of pulling the list out of your
    pocket and reading it just before entering the corner store to buy cigarrettes.
    If you don't think about the habit, you don't have to look at or think about
    the list either.

    -- For chemical addictions, I've read that it helps to have plenty of vitamins
    especially vitamin C.

    -- I read somewhere that for both chemical and behavioural addictions, they may be related to
    "reward deficiency syndrome" and may be helped by DMAE which you can
    get by eating sardines.

    -- If you want to quit drinking and smoking, some people find it works better
    to quit drinking first. Otherwise you might forget and smoke when you're drunk.

    -- Come up with activities to do instead, or to do immediately upon stopping
    each time. They can be quick little things like laughing, singing a song,
    swinging your arms and taking a couple of deep breaths, etc.

    -- Tell people what new rules you've set for yourself; this puts a bit of
    pressure on you to follow them

    -- Hang around with people who don't do those habits, at least for the
    first few weeks

    -- Set rewards for yourself

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    Thanks everyone for some insightful posts!

    I especially liked the idea of defining some things to do in stead when the urge comes, and to make clear for myself why I want to break out of a habit. Thanks again. I shall return with some more questions regarding GTD, hich I have recently started with

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