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    Quote Originally Posted by webhak View Post
    I sweep the contents of my desk into the 43 folder system at the end of the day. The next morning, I go to the appropriate date folder and pick up where I left off.
    Nice idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by webhak View Post
    The head of our company is a neat freak and is a strong advocate of clean desks...no clutter. He has a history of coming in and cleaning off your desk for you if you do not heed his warnings.

    While it might seem a bit draconian, he does have a point in that you can only work on one piece of paper at a time.
    There has to be a law against such managerial bullies. Paper, for some people, is essential for visualizing work. Didn't David Allen say somewhere that piles are organized if you've reviewed and sorted them?
    Last edited by madalu; 04-23-2007 at 07:52 PM.

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    Thumbs down I've never heard him say this.

    Quote Originally Posted by madalu View Post
    Didn't David Allen say somewhere that piles are organized if you've reviewed and sorted them?
    I've never heard David Allen say anything about organized piles.

    Due to the laws of physics piles are dificult to organize and maintain. It is nearly impossible to put items in the pile in the A-Z order. And when you try to retrieve a random document the pile spectacularly collapses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TesTeq View Post
    I've never heard David Allen say anything about organized piles.

    Due to the laws of physics piles are dificult to organize and maintain. It is nearly impossible to put items in the pile in the A-Z order. And when you try to retrieve a random document the pile spectacularly collapses.
    I believe he says something about a "to read" pile and/or file. And isn't a tickler file simply organized clusters of information?

    I'm not suggesting piles as a permanent filing system. Rather, simply the temporary piles that one creates everyday. E.g., when I'm working I'll have materials out for the current project I'm working on. But I'll also have piles that contain my lists, my calendar, to read, stuff to file at the end of the day--and above all, my inbox.

    Ideally, you would try to get everything processed and filed by the end of the day. But if I'm working on a crucial project, I sometimes like to leave the files in a state where I'll be able to pick up right where I left off.

    In this regard, a neat freak boss would hinder my productivity. Managers and bosses who delegate everything--and thus like to have their desks and minds "clean"--should have some patience and/or understanding for those who actually have to get their hands dirty with voluminous paperwork.

    But the idea of using the tickler for this purpose is a cool trick.
    Last edited by madalu; 04-24-2007 at 11:33 AM.

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    FWIW, many "clean desk" environments are that way for a reason, not just because the boss is a neat freak. And many neat freak bosses got that way from years of working in clean desk environments.

    The most common reason is security: if you leave stuff lying all over your desk, then anyone can see what you are working on. That's a huge no-no if you're working on classified materials, but not great for any kind of trade secrets. Also not great if you work with confidential client information, like medical, legal, or financial records.

    Another reason is safety. If you're working in a research or engineering environment, the stuff on your desk or workbench could easily include hazardous chemicals, ignition sources, and so forth. If you always put everything away, you'll never have to worry about whether you left your soldering iron plugged in.

    I've recently become a neat freak because my house is for sale. I don't necessarily want potential buyers to know why I'm moving or where I'm moving to, which means making sure the relocation stuff is tucked away in a drawer. Plus there's the desire to keep the office neat so that it doesn't look any smaller than it actually is. Strangely enough, now that I've gotten in the habit I find that I don't really need all those piles after all...

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    I think the tickler *functionality* is crucial for just about everyone. That said, if the # of items in your tickler system is low, or if you don't like managing it every day, there are alternatives.

    If using a tickler file: Create the 43 folders as described elsewhere, or buy an all-in-one "sorter" file, e.g., the Staples EveryDay Letter Size File & Sorter, 1-31 & Jan-Dec (Item 422683) or the "Everyday File" from Globe-Weis.

    If not, use the "calendar/holding file" technique (as Stephanie Winston calls it) - more in Some common GTD questions, with answers

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    Default I use 2 methods

    Method 1: Home, where I do have things that are date-specific but will not physically fit into my calendar (which I refuse to stuff with notes and errata). this is a full-on 48 folder system (12 months + 31 days this month + 5 days next month). My wife generally gets the mail, takes what she needs, and puts the rest in the In-box. When I get home from work (later than she does), I zip through the In-box: Tickle the bills for the date of the next Weekly Review, toss the junk, Do what may need to get addressed immediately, and Defer the rest to an appropriate time (usually WR day again).
    Simple. Then, each morning, while the coffee is brewing, I check the contents of "today's" folder, sync with my paper calendar, and get on with my routine. Again, simple.

    Method 2: Work, where I have much less to Tickle (and a CRM that I must use), I just have a 3-ring binder with tabs labeled for each month and 1-31 in the appropriate month's section. There is one sheet of blank, 3-hole punched paper for each day, and I just write down (or punch and insert) whatever might need to be tickled. Most if my work activities go into the CRM and I get an automatic reminder when they are due.

    I have found the 48 folders to be invaluable. There is a complete description of my GTD hardware here, and my method for the Weekly Review here (including downloads of Review Checklists).

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    Quote Originally Posted by madalu View Post
    There has to be a law against such managerial bullies. Paper, for some people, is essential for visualizing work. Didn't David Allen say somewhere that piles are organized if you've reviewed and sorted them?
    Shouldn't the manager be more conscious of productivity over neatness? One thing David Allen did say is "some people have nothing very well organized and some people have Nothing, very well organized."

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    Thumbs up Tickler Keys

    What a great idea to keep the keys in the Tickler File. I have a home office, so the car keys are not a critical item. However, I'm always looking for my reading glasses, so I will give them a new home tonight to improve my tickler batting average. I think the reading glasses might be the "key" to getting those tickler files opened everyday.

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    I find my tickler file to be an essential piece of my system...

    It's great for things that you want to act on, but not right now. Yes, you could put these items on your calendar... but personally, I don't like things cluttering up my calendar. It turns the nice, hard edges of that landscape into something less desirable.

    To give you an example, I'm in the process of interviewing candidates for an open position on my team. I've got a bunch of them tomorrow, and the individual appointments are on my calendar. What do I do with the actual resumes? I could put them in a file folder labeled 'resumes', but if I'm going to file them anyway why not put them into the tickler system?

    Tomorrow when I come in, they'll be right there in my inbox waiting for me.

    As another example, today I went to the doc. He said, 'call me in June to schedule an appointment for July'... Now, I could put a note in my calendar for June 1st that says "Call Dr. for July appt". Problem is, MUST I call him on June 1st? No... so now the hard edges of my calendar are getting muddy...

    What if I don't call him on June 1st? I suppose I could move the reminder... but there you go again messing w/the calendar. So... what did I do? I simply put a note "Call Dr. for July appt" in my June folder. When I bring it forward, I'll pick a day and drop it in that folder. If that day comes up and I don't feel like calling, I'll pick another day and drop it in that folder...

    The tickler is useful for all sorts of things like that.... Tickets to a play - drop them in the folder for that day. Random $5 or $10 bill... nice surprise to come into one morning...

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkgrossi View Post
    Random $5 or $10 bill... nice surprise to come into one morning...
    This tickles me. I'm going to have to give it a try. Thanks.

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