Help with Next Actions

[mark_anderson_us]

Hi All

I'm new to GTD and am in the process of implementing it with Outlook 2007 and ClearContext. However, where I'm a bit stuck is NextActions. I understand that each project should have a next action to move it forward.

What I'm doing right now is creating a Task in Outlook. Naming it "[Project A] Send proposal" and assigning it to my @projects context.

I'm sure this is wrong. Many times it will be "Call XYZ" so it should go under @phone, but then it's lost the link to the project (except in the subject line), which means I can't group by "all projects" or specific projects.

[Borisoff]

Why not call it "Project A: call mr. Bean" and put it into @Call or @Office instead of @Projects? Plus add "Project A - Hire mr. Bean" to your Project list. Thus you have next action and it's connected to the project. But you have to use a script or a search function if you want to see all your next actions for any individual project.

[Brent]

Many times it will be "Call XYZ" so it should go under @phone, but then it's lost the link to the project (except in the subject line), which means I can't group by "all projects" or specific projects.

Why do you think you'll need to group by all projects or specific projects?

[dragynox]

One thing that Outlook allows that is helpful is for tasks to belong to multiple categories. So I create the standard categories (@ Calls, @ Computer, @ Errands, ...) and also a category for each project (Backyard Landscaping, Sell Baseball Cards, ...)

Now when I create a task, I assign it to the correct Context (@ Calls) and also to the project if it belongs to one. This is some extra overhead, and Dave recommends not adding the extra overhead, but if it is a feature that you decide is worth the extra overhead and that it won't be a hinderance to using the system, then go ahead and do something similar.

[mark_anderson_us]

Hi Guys

Thanks for the suggestions.

Brent pointed me to the GTF guide for IMS that shows you how to get Topics in the regular task list, so it won't be a problem on my desktop. I'll be getting a new phone/PDA in the next 4 weeks, so I may have to revisit this.

I did try the multiple categories, but the thing I didn't like in Outlook 2007 is that when you're viewing the task list it doesn't show all the categories assigned in the categories column. Also, as one of you mentioned there's quite a significant overhead (in Outlook 2007): you need to go to all categories to select multiple, or even select one.

Right now I have major contexts as categories, so the list is short and they're all visible, and the topic assignment (most of my e-mails which become tasks are AutoAssigned to the topic). So now I can click Task, select the Context and Save.

Thanks for all the help

Regards

Mark

[quantumgardener]

Mark,

Welcome to the learning experience that is GTD. It sounds to me like you're in the "I have to tie next actions to projects otherwise I can't do my weekly review properly" place. Many have been there and many still are. Others have moved on.

I too felt a strong need to tie next actions and projects. I used different tools and different notations. Eventually I followed the wisdom of others and settled into a regular weekly review. If you do this you'll quickly find that you do not need to tie NAs and projects. They will be tied in your head and that's enough. The fear of missing something proves unfounded.

Keep on this path for a while. I think it's an important part of learning what GTD can do for you.

Regards,

David

[sdann]

Welcome to the learning experience that is GTD. It sounds to me like you're in the "I have to tie next actions to projects otherwise I can't do my weekly review properly" place. Many have been there and many still are. Others have moved on.

I didn't realize that advanced GTDers do not need to tie in NAs to projects. I often wonder why I need a reason for all my NAs - I implemented the "full" GTD system this past summer. Most of my NAs belong to projects and some are single NAs. My context lists include the project name. How do you handle larger sets of tasks that I, for example, would put into a project? Some more complex projects would be written out in advance with the NAs in proper order. I assume you must do that though; you just don't need to visually see the project tie-in the context list? Is this how others do it?

My question for this is rather important. One of my goals this year is to "just do it and not think about it too much." GTD is integral, since I can put everything down and review it weekly.

[abhay]

Mark,

Welcome to the learning experience that is GTD. It sounds to me like you're in the "I have to tie next actions to projects otherwise I can't do my weekly review properly" place. Many have been there and many still are. Others have moved on.

I too felt a strong need to tie next actions and projects. I used different tools and different notations. Eventually I followed the wisdom of others and settled into a regular weekly review. If you do this you'll quickly find that you do not need to tie NAs and projects. They will be tied in your head and that's enough. The fear of missing something proves unfounded.

Keep on this path for a while. I think it's an important part of learning what GTD can do for you.

Regards,

David

Completely agree with you, David! Was it you who had written on similar lines two/three months ago? It really caught me, and then within a few days I was a convert! Earlier I used Thinking Rock and then a little script of my own just for this connection. But now after trying out the "connection in head only" game, I realized that connecting projects and NAs externally is really a drag.

In fact this way, some tiny projects never come onto my list. If a tap is broken at our office, the next action is 'ask the admin assistant to get it fixed' and then it becomes a 'Waiting for' item till the tap is fixed.. No extra entry in projects is required! Of course not true for even a little larger projects.

Since I review all my NAs once a day, I can immediately say whether there is an NA associated with a project whenever I look at a project. In fact this has even simplified my weekly review!

The actions have to be a little more descriptive sometimes, though. Not just 'call ABC', but 'call ABC re XYZ', since it is possible that after a few days I forget what was the call for, and may recall it only when I look at the projects list. But typing is never a problem for one who has learned it, and the time required to type such a whole sentence is less than that required to take the decision of how much to type.

It was really a feeling of moving on, dropping my own script. Now I use KOrganizer, a PIM that comes with Fedora, a linux distribution. I use categories to separate different lists. But it really does not matter which PIM, as far as it provides a calendar and lists which can be categorized. (It may call it a To-Do list, but never mind!)

Abhay